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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby BerryzCelebration » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:27 am

321BreakinOut wrote:Eripon needs to be center already :heart:

That wouldn't be good for me. I'd have a heart attack.

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I seriously hope that she'll improve greatly. She's been getting pretty good since 2013, but not good enough for lines of her own. So maybe when her voice develops more emotion and more control, maybe we can start talking center XD.

I feel like she'll be the next Sayu. After all, they are both the weakest in their generations, and they seem to be getting TV show attention and stuff. I feel like if Sayu graduates, either she or Harunan might get the Sayu treatment. You know: Auto-tune solo lines, TV show appearances, duets, a solo, better dancing spots. I'd love for that to happen :heart:.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby aerosuffly » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:24 am

She will definitely have her break, maybe not as a center, but people will definitely recognize her on TV. Heck Sayumi never get to be center until she became a leader, but everyone recognizes her.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby BerryzCelebration » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:35 am

That's why I want her to follow in Sayu's footsteps XD. But instead of being a poison tounge like Sayu, have her KY character.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby Zunu » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:10 am

With respect to the Toki/Sora readings, the way I see it is simply that the title of a song is, after all, a kind of name. And that Japanese names frequently have unusual readings, both to make the name distinctive, and to pack an additional layer of beauty and meaning into what would otherwise be a commonplace word. Sort of how even though Iida Kaori's given name is not written as 香 meaning scent, but as 圭織 meaning square weave, it still carries a lingering connotation of a fragrance. So to that extent, perhaps it is an unremarkable enough alternate reading that a detailed explanation would neither be sought nor offered.

See also TV Tropes, especially All Folders>Anime&Manga>Harukanaru Toki no Naka de.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby Starra » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:12 pm

My favourite is Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby Sohee » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:27 am

The magic of kanji. <3
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby Pavlova » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:49 am

Zunu wrote:With respect to the Toki/Sora readings, the way I see it is simply that the title of a song is, after all, a kind of name. And that Japanese names frequently have unusual readings, both to make the name distinctive, and to pack an additional layer of beauty and meaning into what would otherwise be a commonplace word. Sort of how even though Iida Kaori's given name is not written as 香 meaning scent, but as 圭織 meaning square weave, it still carries a lingering connotation of a fragrance. So to that extent, perhaps it is an unremarkable enough alternate reading that a detailed explanation would neither be sought nor offered.

See also TV Tropes, especially All Folders>Anime&Manga>Harukanaru Toki no Naka de.



Let us all remember that Tsunku does that *a lot*

Examples:

Maji Bomber. The title reads as "Honki Bomber" pretty much no matter how you put it. Other readings for the first sign are like.. Moto is all I can think of. The second one could be read as "ke" or "ge". It cannot, ever, EVER be read as Maji, nor can Maji ever be written like that. But Tsunku wrote it like that because Honki and Maji have similar meanings, and he wrote the Furigana.

Give me Love. It is written as as Give me 愛 in the discography, in Japanese, but is pronounced Give me Love, as was stated by Tsunku (and possibly written in Furigana, I can't remember).

Then, last one I can remember. Yume Miru 15sai is written as such in kanji but supposed to be pronounced Yume miru fifteen (like, for instance, just like give me love, they'll announce the title as such on radio or concerts). but it's definitely written as 夢見る 15歳, with the sai kanji after the 15 clearly meaning it *should* be juugosai but it isn't, it's fifteen, because Tsunku.

Henceforth, such things shall be explained as "because Tsunku"
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby Sohee » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:43 am

It's not Tsunku, it's Japan. Plenty of lyrics have different readings of kanji even if that's not "really" how they should be read.
"Maji" for "honki" is done 50% of the time, I'd say. It's easily one of the more common ones.
Let's just be happy he doesn't do what a lot of Johnnys songs have - English words sung as "Japanese" or whatever, those are annoying.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby CaptainBerryzGiraffe » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:43 pm

Wait.. it's actually supposed to be pronounced "Yume Miru Fifteen Sai"?!?!?! I've always said it like that because I jump to english numbers before Japanese ones... BUT IT'S THE CORRECT PRONUNCIATION!!! *mindblown*
Oh, some more examples of this, btw, would be how inside the songs themselves, a lot of the time there are kanji in the lyrics that have furigana.
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Re: [4/16] Morning Musume。'14 56th single : Toki wo Koe Sora wo Koe/Password is 0

Postby Starra » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:56 pm

It's just "Yumemiru Fifteen". No "sai" on the end or anything.

(And it bothers me that lots of people still write it as Yumemiru 15sai. It's Yumemiru 15 (or Fifteen, whichever) dammit!)
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