Hello! Project Photobooks

[zam_ho]

^Have you watched it or just listen to those other people say its bad. If I follwed your way I would still be thinking the worse of Kuduu's PB. But on the contrary it was nothing like what was described. So do you continue to believe in the false descriptions. That is up to you tho.

What bugs me is not the DVD. What bugs me is people, who have not actually go thru the whole dvd - or even worse have not seen it at all, and goes around telling other people how bad it is, when it is not.

[AyuHikaru]

One more time: The point is not whether or not it's bad or good or whatever

The point is that it's a 12 year old girl. That INHERENTLY makes it bad

What aare you not getting exactly? Content doesn't matter when it a 12 year old girl being followed around by a camera with her Bikini on. There is no way that's tasteful BECAUSE OF HER AGE.

[Starra]

But... 12 year old girls wear bikinis all the time? I get what you're trying to say, but it's not bad.

Also: DO I NEED TO LINK TO U15 DVD DIGESTS OR SOMETHING? Jesus, JPlop, have any of you actually seen how bad the U15 industry can be? I, for one, am GLAD Haruka is in H!P because then she doesn't have to do gross shit. I'm not talking to you about this, A_H, I'm just saying in general. So. Yeah. I'm not saying it's... right or whatever, I'm just saying that it could be a whole hell of a lot worse.

Now, I'm still not a Haruka fan, but the bikinis she's wearing in her PB (from the previews) aren't that awful. They look like regular bikinis that a regular 12-year-old would wear.

[AyuHikaru]

The intent of some 12 year old going to the beach in a Bikini and Haruka being put in a bikini specifically to film and take pictures of her ARE VERY DIFFERENT. The intent of the DVD is too leer at her in bikini shots, while only pedophiles would leer at a 12 year old playing on a beach. This isn't hard to understand.

And yes the U-15 industry is awful, but just because someone does something wrong doesn't suddenly make someone else in the right, here. They can both be wrong at the same time.

[zam_ho]

@starra
Yes thats what I'm trying to point at too thank you for bringing that up. The way Kuduu's making of DVD was described it sounded like something from that zone of U15, but it wasn't. And i'm affraid ppl would go around thinking in their heads that it is like that
( not for AH specifically, just saying in general )

@AH
There is nothing to "leer" about. The shots were too far away

And yes the U-15 industry is awful, but just because someone does something wrong doesn't suddenly make someone else in the right, here. They can both be wrong at the same time.

Thats like saying that shop lifting is equivalent to armed robbery, the two things are different in degree of wrong, but you are adamant at grouping them together
That just feels wrong.

Since I feel that you have misunderstood me earlier, I'm not asking you to say it is "right".
I'm fine if you just said you are not into watching this type of videos. But what doesn't sit right with me is that you deduced/judged that it is as bad as those sleazy U15 DVDs.

[Starra]

AH: No, I do agree with you. It's still bad. I'm just saying it could be worse.

[AyuHikaru]

@starra
Yes thats what I'm trying to point at too thank you for bringing that up. The way Kuduu's making of DVD was described it sounded like something from that zone of U15, but it wasn't. And i'm affraid ppl would go around thinking in their heads that it is like that
( not for AH specifically, just saying in general )

@AH
There is nothing to "leer" about. The shots were too far away

And yes the U-15 industry is awful, but just because someone does something wrong doesn't suddenly make someone else in the right, here. They can both be wrong at the same time.

Thats like saying that shop lifting is equivalent to armed robbery, the two things are different in degree of wrong, but you are adamant at grouping them together
That just feels wrong.

Since I feel that you have misunderstood me earlier, I'm not asking you to say it is "right".
I'm fine if you just said you are not into watching this type of videos. But what doesn't sit right with me is that you deduced/judged that it is as bad as those sleazy U15 DVDs.

I'm not saying that Shop lifting and Armed robbery are the SAME, I'm saying they're both WRONG. Armed robbery may be worse, but it in no way makes Shoplifting okay. The same goes for Haruka's DVD/photobook and U15 DVds/photobooks.

[CN_Guy]

@starra
Yes thats what I'm trying to point at too thank you for bringing that up. The way Kuduu's making of DVD was described it sounded like something from that zone of U15, but it wasn't. And i'm affraid ppl would go around thinking in their heads that it is like that
( not for AH specifically, just saying in general )

@AH
There is nothing to "leer" about. The shots were too far away

And yes the U-15 industry is awful, but just because someone does something wrong doesn't suddenly make someone else in the right, here. They can both be wrong at the same time.

Thats like saying that shop lifting is equivalent to armed robbery, the two things are different in degree of wrong, but you are adamant at grouping them together
That just feels wrong.

Since I feel that you have misunderstood me earlier, I'm not asking you to say it is "right".
I'm fine if you just said you are not into watching this type of videos. But what doesn't sit right with me is that you deduced/judged that it is as bad as those sleazy U15 DVDs.

Vid is creepy, I'm shameless so I watched it. Yup, I felt like the intent was to stare at this child modeling a bikini for ... some reason... The minor interview was nice, however I'm a bit thrown off by the huge amounts of awkward silence that crept on me watching the rest of it... It was weird, this would be a fair point as to why I don't really get into this fandom that much.

[randompasserby]

... The intent of the DVD is too leer at her in bikini shots ...

The only times Haruka is seen wearing a bikini
2:29-3:52 ... 6:03-7:19 ... 9:00-10:04
The rest of the 15 minute video is the same as any pv making, album/single jaket photoshoot, or magazine shoot and i enjoyed watching those
While i agree it'll be better for everyone involved to cut out those scenes entirely, let's not blow it out of proportion and generalized everyone who has no problem with it guys please

[CN_Guy]

lol,That is 3 and a half minutes I could've spent not looking at a child in a bikini. I can never get that time back. I am sad.