Cutest/Coolest/Hottest/etc H!P member photos

[Parhelion69]

Noooooo Kanyon! You took the worst one as an example T_T

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all she needs is elf ears..

[Nayoko-Kihara]

I love Kanon's new hairstyle.

It doesn't look great with a black and hot pink pleather suit - but I like it on Kanon, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it'll match up with the concept for S/mileage's next single.

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Yuka stop starring at camera 1 when the host is talking

all she needs is elf ears..

At first I tot it was photoshopped

[LarcKen]

all she needs is elf ears..

LOL the flower in the background 'fused' with her left ear making it actually like an elf ear

[Lisa]

Ahh I wish Kanon's bangs weren't that straight, it looks nearly like a wig. It looks better when she has loose hair though.

From Miyabi's blog.



I have to say that I normally dislike it when Miyabi wears lenses (and nowadays it's just the rule), I didn't like her very much in Motto Zutto's pv. But it looks a looot better when she wears a bit more heavy make up, just gorgeous. :_D

[stam4o]

I understand it may come across as aggressive, but I'll always think calling a young girl a Loli is gross. Period. Call it projecting all you want.

I'm pretty open about a lot of things in this fandom (though I did rage when Haruka got a photobook before anyone "old enough") I draw the line at calling them Loli's. They aren't Loli's, they are little girls. Those two words are very different. As someone who knows a child abuse survivor, I take this fairly seriously. Loli's is a fetish term, I'd prefer no one fetishize real little girls. I'm not out to control anyone's thoughts, but speech is a power thing. Especially with the bad rep Idol fandom's already have. Do we need to add to that by using a known Fetishizing word?

You may disagree but I had to say something. I think I did the right thing making it known I don't think it's okay. It may not change anything, but I had to say something

Actually...... I have to say that you're partially wrong

Those AREN'T little girls. Scientifically, a 12-13 yeras old girl isn't little anymore - she is perfectly capable of living, surviving, reproducing or whatever by HER OWN, and as a general statement, a girl at thisage has the total ability to understand the environment she's surrounded by and to process the information she taks from it for the upcoming future. (I think for the boys it would be at age 13-14, a little later).

The "legal age" or whatever it's called, which comes at age 18 or 21 depending on the country, it's just another law imposed by society for X reason. Probably because by experience trough th times people have saw that youngers need to be more mature to do this thing or that thing or this one other thing....

But I'll repeat it: these girls aren't little anymore and they have all agreed with what are they doing.


NOW, by that, even by the meaning of "sexually attractive" or "sexually suggestive", they can be called lolis.
I DON'T LIKE it either but that's how thing are and as Celedam said, it's all fetishized, that's how industry works.

Anyway and after all, it's a thing that depends of each one. Me for example, I wouldn't call them lolis at all, because it's not that I have any sexual thoughts about them. There's a big difference between that last and to just like somebody, liking it's something that can't be avoided, it comes by it's own.

I'm not sure where your from because I know that people have different views on this depending on the country and culture, but certainly where I come from people have very strong views against what you are saying. 12-13 is still a child, practically a baby in US thought. I work with kids and in my opinion I don't think any girl in this age range is that mature to fully be aware of the decisions she is making or what is going on in the world around her. Being able to create a child (physical maturity) doesn't equate to mental and emotional maturity. I don't think girls are seen as becoming sexually mature until maybe 16 here. And you can disagree, but I can see why anyone coming from my background or one similar would have very very strong views against this mindset, the term Loli and viewing children in a sexual manner in any form.

Yes the industry does fetishize it, maybe not outright, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to agree that it's ok. And what I think is trying to be said here is that by using the terms we are perpetuating the idea that the young girls are sexual objects or we are just attributing sexuality to them and that makes alot of people uncomfortable. Even if its other people doing it. I for one am uncomfortable with it, but it seems like that's just my and a few others opinion.

Also I'm a girl so I know I'm not projecting my own sexual feelings. It's pretty obvious with how the way the term gets thrown around on places that are not jplop that the term holds a certain sexual connotation in people's consciousness. Especially when lolicon porn exists. Perhaps it's a protective motherly feeling that comes into play with me and other girls.

Saying it that way you're totally right. (Insert here emotic for a bow with the head without smiling)

I feel like I was waiting for someone to respond in a way like that, maybe because I didn't describe the moral point of view, like you did, but a simply a technical one, like it's "what nature calls you for", that's why of the "partially" use before. A neutral standing is always a good start, but it's never enough. Now the picture is completed.



And now, a forgotten beauty ...

[321BreakinOut]

No one forgot about her stam4o

[Mizu_D3]

^
no. she isnt "forgotten" beauty.
she always beauty. ever. IMHO

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